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    « Reply #15 on: August 01, 2010, 08:13:44 AM »

    i know what chengfei do. Grin
    He change the Technic Diggger Bucket 10 X 18 to Technic Digger Bucket 8 X 10.

    It's can reduce the weight and make the motor run smoothly right?

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    « Reply #16 on: August 01, 2010, 09:31:00 AM »

    i know what chengfei do. Grin
    He change the Technic Diggger Bucket 10 X 18 to Technic Digger Bucket 8 X 10.
    It's can reduce the weight and make the motor run smoothly right?

    Whoa! Jackson, you're sharp man! I changed to a smaller bucket to make the excavator looks a bit more balanced and to scale.
    Well, as for weight reduction, it does help a little but not much.
    I think the reason TLG used a bigger bucket is to accommodate their B-model - Motorized tracked loader. Otherwise the tracked loader will looks wierd in a small bucket.
    Agree?

    PS: bobby -> you guessed it wrong Grin
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    « Reply #17 on: August 01, 2010, 09:32:53 AM »

    Cheng Fei already built his excavator!  Shocked Another one without stickers. Gosh, I think I will be the only one with stickers when I finally go about building mine.
    Yeah, paanjang16, you love stickers. We know!  Grin
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    « Reply #18 on: August 01, 2010, 12:49:24 PM »

    Already installed my excavator. I agree with everyone here, the main boom need ALOT of power to move it. Have not tried it using new batteries, but using my current batch of used batteries (the latest being the ones used in the exhibition in June for my Crane Truck, energizer somemore!) results in the main boom not moving at all! But the same batteries can move the rest of the arm, bucket, rotation and tracks.

    Will try with fresh batteries and see how it goes.  Rolleyes

    Yaki, can show how you use an adapter on your excavator? I am curious to see what kind of adapter you are using.
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    « Reply #19 on: August 02, 2010, 09:15:12 AM »

    yupp agree with Cheng fei,
    The bigger bucket are for the b-model, so they use it for the a-model too.
    The excavator have the bigger bucket than will make the motor run not smoothly.

    Yaki, are use the 9V adaptor and modifiy to plug in this model?  So that the motor are always keep in 9V supply.

    The battery box are needs to supply 4pcs m-motor and 2 IR receiver. And the motor are load heavy, so the battery will "kong" faster. right?
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    « Reply #20 on: August 02, 2010, 11:59:58 AM »

    seems like the joy is gone when this problem happened....
    if i'm not mistaken, this problem are the same thing happened to front end loader when using the PF...
    the main bucket boom is hard to raise. when using the m motor....
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    « Reply #21 on: August 02, 2010, 01:48:26 PM »

    seems like the joy is gone when this problem happened....
    if i'm not mistaken, this problem are the same thing happened to front end loader when using the PF...
    the main bucket boom is hard to raise. when using the m motor....

    Joy hilang? nola.. i think these engineers would find the problem interesting. Smiley

    Engineers like to solve problemsleh...
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    « Reply #22 on: August 02, 2010, 09:58:14 PM »

    Ya, now keep thinking on how to make it move faster.

    Option 1: Add XL motor to main boom motor. Also add another XL motor so that when the excavator is driven both threads spin at the same speed (XL motor is slower)

    Option 2: Kit-bash a 9V rechargeble add on.

    Option 3: remove gearbox and have dedicated XL motor to serve main boom.

    Anyone tried using rechargeble 1.2 V batteries? Any performance difference?
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    « Reply #23 on: August 02, 2010, 10:14:08 PM »

    Ohm's law states:

    P = I x V

    if V less, P also less kua  Tongue
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    « Reply #24 on: August 03, 2010, 12:10:01 PM »

    hi paanjang,
    also need to think the force too. The XL motor sure produce the more torque compare with the M-motor. But the gear and the universal joint can accept the torque or not.  Huh?
    Needs to built and test with carefully, i think the bevel gear will slip.
    If you have modify it please share your comment to us.
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    « Reply #25 on: August 03, 2010, 05:47:06 PM »

    Yes the joints and gears can tahan. My 8258 also got XL motor and still the gears are intact. Also you see those MOCs cars with remote control and full suspension their universal joint still intact. Worse come to worse order spares from bricklink.
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    « Reply #26 on: August 03, 2010, 07:22:59 PM »

    Huah, bz for a few days so many post d.

    Yaki, can show how you use an adapter on your excavator? I am curious to see what kind of adapter you are using.

    Paanjang16 its a normal adapter with its wire connected to the +- pole of the battery box

    Ohm's law states:

    P = I x V

    if V less, P also less kua  Tongue

    Yeah, Tuan the adapter i got oso supply constant V but a mere 50Ah, looking for a 1000Ah now to increase the P. But errr.. technic gurus, can the M motor take the power arrr or will it burn the motors?

    Ya, now keep thinking on how to make it move faster.

    Option 1: Add XL motor to main boom motor. Also add another XL motor so that when the excavator is driven both threads spin at the same speed (XL motor is slower)

    Option 2: Kit-bash a 9V rechargeble add on.

    Option 3: remove gearbox and have dedicated XL motor to serve main boom.

    Anyone tried using rechargeble 1.2 V batteries? Any performance difference?

    Paanjang16, i was oso thinking of not changing anything on the gear box, but adding additional motors at the bottom of the excavator dedicated for running the tracks. Its bcos the alternate B model the tracks are fast and able to 'drift' when taking a corner  Tongue
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    « Reply #27 on: August 04, 2010, 07:56:44 AM »

    i think that, is posible to add in another battery box, so that use 2 battery box.
    one battery box provide the supply to 1 IR receiver and 2 m-motor.
    but will make the excavator more heavy.
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    « Reply #28 on: August 04, 2010, 05:22:41 PM »

    That's tricky. Then need to consider Power vs Weight.
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    « Reply #29 on: August 04, 2010, 06:55:55 PM »

    Good idea to add another motor for the tracks, but you will need a battery box between the tracks. This is so that the top part can turn 360 degrees without any wires going through the turn table. Better to have the motors in the upper section but dedicated for the tracks.
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